Council of Elrond

Hi Eric et al, since it's been almost 3 months since the last update on this thread, could your eager fans please get another update on the current state of production / current ETA for when these sets might be shipped? Thank you!

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Apologies, I was including ICE in that. I think the fact that we’re arguing about this stuff at all is a sign that ICE wasn’t perfect. Point still remains ...

I’ve said my peace though, others can chime in if they’re so inclined, I really gotta turn off email notifications on this!!

Again BT, we're talking about functional errata for power level . We've named several examples and I'd be happy to go through the entire CRF to list more, but saying "that doesn't exist" is clearly not the case as laid out above. It's just a shame that there's such an entrenched sense among the doze...

The difference is we’re talking about functional errata. Personally I’m fine with clarifications and rulings; not so much when the card literally does something completely and unintuitively different from what it says. And even then, that’s not the end of the world in select cases; The original poin...

@Theo, I think that's a valid point cosmetically, but misses the larger problem. For sure, CoE should try to avoid banning "special" LotR cards as much as possible, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't ALSO have tried to create a practical game experience. Furthermore, it just as easily goes the oth...

For what it's worth (not much!), I am 99% of the same mind as rezwits (the 1% allowing for further extrapolations henceforth). Coming back to this game in 2016, the amount of functional errata that's been issued over the past 20 years is truly astounding... not only because it makes an already compl...

How dare you say Van was wrong when we must all uphold every insanely needlessly-complicated ICE/CoL/CoE ruling for the sake of posterity??? ;) Having out-of-game and out-of-play has no functional difference in vast majority of circumstances and, as shown above, hasn't been upheld even by ICE in the...

Thanks KK, appreciate your insight as always. I do have to laugh, though, at those rules you quoted -- yet another example (is somebody keeping count?) of ICE/Van/CoE not being as technically specific with terminology as they should have been, and leaving the rest of us in this quagmire of confusion...

Correct ....... * There aren't piles before the game has begun. I see your point about the wording on Strider. However, KotE clearly states the removed card must be non-unique -- so that random errata about "from the game" and "from play" is pointless and (to my mind) clearly intended to fix the Eng...

Much love to you rules gurus for tackling this stuff, and not trying to step on y'all's toes, but for what it's worth: I don't see a distinction between "remove from the game", "remove from play", how a given card ended up in out-of-play pile, etc. Obviously ICE was not great about keeping rules tex...

Hey CCG, really great work, & thanks so much for putting the time into this! In terms of what would make your engine more generally useful for deck-building (though this might not be practical given your current framework), I'd be super stoked if your engine allowed for multiple search terms, simila...

Uniquely unique!

(other than Valar)

Hey Jab, I was thinking about this more after we talked, and I agree with others that the "Remove from the game" clause is the important distinction even though it wasn't mentioned in that original quote. To cite the rulebook: Clarification: In general, cards in your out-of-play pile and your marsha...

Aye (yaiyai)!