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by Theo
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:06 am
Forum: Rules & Errata
Topic: Responding to revealed on-guard cards
Replies: 30
Views: 225

Re: Responding to revealed on-guard cards

Create cards create attacks. The creature card is resolved, creating the attack, during a chain of effects. The attack must be resolved for the creature card to be resolved, for the chain to be resolved. The creation of the attack resolves at resolution of the creature card. The attack itself does ...
by Theo
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:49 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Using a non-hazard agent card as a character card
Replies: 7
Views: 128

Re: Using a non-hazard agent card as a character card

"MELE USING MELE WITH METW" reference above made it impossible for agents to be hazards in a hero deck. ICE Digest 73 doesn't change or overrule that.
by Theo
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:39 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?
Replies: 24
Views: 223

Re: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?

All of the rules have already been quoted here or referred to. With this kind of response, should I reason that it is your interpretations/deductions that are amiss? There are many posts of yours that fail to reference the relevant ICE rulings. The main meta-difference between us seems to be that I...
by Theo
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:33 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?
Replies: 24
Views: 223

Re: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?

CDavis7M, give some references or the "Alternative Game Format" subforums might be a better place for the rules you want to make up. This isn't to discourage throwing out ideas or other brainstorming, just to discourage flat refutations without counter evidence. As far as I know, items must be playe...
by Theo
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:13 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?
Replies: 24
Views: 223

Re: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?

Would you care to explain your reasoning?
by Theo
Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:11 am
Forum: Rules & Errata
Topic: Responding to revealed on-guard cards
Replies: 30
Views: 225

Re: Responding to revealed on-guard cards

Creature cards create attacks. The creature card is resolved, creating the attack, during a chain of effects. The attack must be resolved for the creature card to be resolved, for the chain to be resolved. If attacks did not resolve during a chain of effects, additional nested attacks could be creat...
by Theo
Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:53 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?
Replies: 24
Views: 223

Re: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?

How about Spawn of Ungoliant. Blow Turned. Stabbing Tongue of Fire (say vs. Smaug played with a Rumor of Wealth). Arguably Adunaphel Unleashed / Motionless Among the Slain (if you want your guy to die). What am I missing?
by Theo
Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:25 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?
Replies: 24
Views: 223

Re: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?

Maybe you could provide a simile or a parse tree? To me: "the body check dice-roll" => "the dice-roll component of the body check" That is, the "body check" phrase in this sentence is an adjective modifying the "dice-roll" phrase, and the "dice-roll" is what needs to be directly affected. Putting th...
by Theo
Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:20 am
Forum: Rules & Errata
Topic: Responding to revealed on-guard cards
Replies: 30
Views: 225

Re: Responding to revealed on-guard cards

Indeed. The two of us retroactively went back and created the idea of nested chain in the CRF. :roll:
by Theo
Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:14 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?
Replies: 24
Views: 223

Re: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?

Sorry, what? The "Body Check" definition that I quoted which distinguished two components? What is the "change" (in terms of rule language, not in terms of what you want it to mean)?
by Theo
Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:03 am
Forum: Rules & Errata
Topic: Responding to revealed on-guard cards
Replies: 30
Views: 225

Re: Responding to revealed on-guard cards

I will not argue that you seem to favor such theses. :roll: I think your only example that was NOT reinforcing "card is not resolved as though it occurred during the M/H phase" was Doubled Vigilance. It seems like the important aspect of Doubled Vigilance is that it's passive triggers off of a decla...
by Theo
Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:20 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?
Replies: 24
Views: 223

Re: Miruvor: Usable wounded before body check?

Could you be clearer about what disagreement you think you are seeing? "Affecting the body check" includes modifying the die roll or the body of the character making the check. Note that "modifying the die roll" and "modifying the body of the character making the check" are distinguished components ...
by Theo
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:03 pm
Forum: Rules & Errata
Topic: Responding to revealed on-guard cards
Replies: 30
Views: 225

Re: Responding to revealed on-guard cards

Is there an easy example of what is achieved by the revealed card taking effect as though it had been declared earlier if it is NOT that it can't be responded to? Why have the rule at all?
by Theo
Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:51 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Wizard's Trove + White Tree: Not Unique?
Replies: 24
Views: 269

Re: Wizard's Trove + White Tree: Not Unique?

I'm not sure what you're referring to. The Charter was amended several times since CoE #43. The Annual Rules Vote mentioned in the current Charter didn't exist until 2018. As for "Out of respect for ICE's legacy no new (non trivial) errata will be issued, nor will any rules from ICE's last CRF be ov...
by Theo
Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:01 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Wizard's Trove + White Tree: Not Unique?
Replies: 24
Views: 269

Re: Wizard's Trove + White Tree: Not Unique?

My impression is that the unique keyword has often been given special meaning beyond the original rulebooks. This has long been contentious. Examine, for example, Long Dark Reach rulings. Well, I don't see the support for that conclusion in the rules. Reference CoE #65 and #43. "Remember, NetRep rul...

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