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by Bandobras Took
Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

When you have to jump through hoops to avoid "a condition is not an action," you're already on shaky ground. You're also confusing the enactor of an action with the entity the action plays out through. When driving a car, by law, a license is required, as is a driver, but neither is the entity throu...
by Bandobras Took
Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:27 am
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

Tapping a card can be an action. It also can be an active condition. It is never both. This is where we differ. I say: tapping a card satisfies the definition for a action as given in the MELE: "any activity in the game". Thus tapping is always an action. There can also be active conditions that th...
by Bandobras Took
Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

... A Character playing a card is not an active condition; it is an action that (because it has A Target) creates active conditions that The Target be in play at declaration and at resolution of the card play action. Similarly tapping A Card is an action, This is already starting to be inaccurate. ...
by Bandobras Took
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

Playing a card sure sounds like an Action verb to me! That skill cards are played by a character means that a character entity is involved in the play action being played out. From this we can conclude that the character is a target of the play action. Actually, this sounds like a solid argument fo...
by Bandobras Took
Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:20 am
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Govern the Storms
Replies: 53
Views: 1712

Re: Govern the Storms

There's more to understanding something spoken or written, than deciphering grammar; for example, reason, logic, deduction, inference, context, history, etc, help too... And reason, logic, deduction, inference, and context all go with the fact that the card (unlike every other Sorcery card ) does n...
by Bandobras Took
Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:50 am
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

@ Konrad: And that means Palantir of Annuminas would be able to recycle Gnaw With Words, which I doubt is the intent.
by Bandobras Took
Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

I'm sorry, where did you get the idea that there are target-based active conditions? Targets are entities through which an action plays out. The rules flat-out state that active conditions are not actions. Therefore, it is impossible for them to target. A target for an action always creates a targe...
by Bandobras Took
Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:36 am
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill Cards
Replies: 6
Views: 439

Re: Skill Cards

rezwits wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:16 pm
Extrapolation
And in this word lies most of the problems that exist in understanding the rules. :)
by Bandobras Took
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:53 pm
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill Cards
Replies: 6
Views: 439

Re: Skill Cards

What's even worse is that "skill cards" are never actually defined in the rules, unless it's the "card requiring skill" phrase in the strike sequence rules.
by Bandobras Took
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:49 pm
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: FW Movement - clash of required site card versions
Replies: 2
Views: 242

Re: FW Movement - clash of required site card versions

"If multiple FW companies are attempting to be at the same site at the end of the movement/hazard phase, and at least one of them is overt, the overt company's site version rules take precedence." This logically follows from the fact that if they both arrive, the resulting company must be overt. If ...
by Bandobras Took
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:45 pm
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Govern the Storms
Replies: 53
Views: 1712

Re: Govern the Storms

in·def·i·nite ar·ti·cle
noun GRAMMAR
a determiner ( a and an in English) that introduces a noun phrase and implies that the thing referred to is nonspecific (as in she bought me a book ; government is an art ; he went to a public school ).
by Bandobras Took
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:43 pm
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

This isn't entirely accurate. Condition, Active: A prerequisite for an action actively made by a player. Typically this involves tapping a character, discarding an item, or having a character of a particular skill in play. You do not have your opponent's characters in play, so they cannot be used a...
by Bandobras Took
Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:34 pm
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

*Any* diplomat should be able to pull out the friendliness to help somebody with a corruption check. But once one diplomat decides to "pull out the friendliness" via the declaration one of the friendship cards, a new diplomat should have to start over with a new card, not be able to pick up where a...
by Bandobras Took
Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:00 am
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

Theoden doesn't suddenly stop being able to make friends just because Frodo went back to Bag End. But neither should declaring a friendship with Frodo imply that the friendship is transferable to Theoden. Which is why I would object to any new rule forcing a person to declare which Diplomat is tryi...
by Bandobras Took
Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:27 am
Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Skill cards target character with skill
Replies: 41
Views: 1127

Re: Skill cards target character with skill

This isn't entirely accurate. Condition, Active: A prerequisite for an action actively made by a player. Typically this involves tapping a character, discarding an item, or having a character of a particular skill in play. You do not have your opponent's characters in play, so they cannot be used as...

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