Dark Minions: Reluctant Final Parting Rarity: Uncommon, Precise: U2 Hazard: Permanent-event Discard any ally if its current site is an Under-deeps site or if its current site's nearest Haven is not the same as the nearest Haven for the site at which the ally can be played. Discard this card when an...

The White Hand: Saruman's Machinery Rarity: Rare, Precise: R3 Resource: Permanent-event Saruman specific. Playable, if you are Saruman, on your protected Isengard or your protected The White Towers. One technology item is playable at the site during your site phase whether the site is tapped or unt...

And if Armory is in play with Crown of Flowers and will be discarded along with it, the minor items under Armory will remain in place. Not in play, because they are considered stored.

I guess we can agree to disagree. I don't see any ambiguity, sorry. Sorry, but this tread is also read by other users. "this particular magic card could cause a corruption check only if played for alternative effect, but it is different than in case of other magic cards with alternative uses&q...

And yes, as I think I've said before, 3 sentences in one paragraph in no way makes the 3rd dependent on the 2nd (without additional words or punctuation). Depending on convention, if used consistently. If convention would be used consistently and the convention would be "post/common effect is ...

Children also break many grammar rules. "Some people" may include "some children". And in this respect, ICE were children when making a CCG. English is a mess of contradictions and exceptions anyway, and the necessary precision in both terminology *and* formatting is manifestly ...

And since there is no break in Echoes, each sentence has to be treated as equal so the 3rd applies to both effects. Ech... then 3rd sentence is not treated in the same way as 1st and 2nd. Or 1st sentence belongs to primary effect, 2nd and 3rd sentence belong to alternative effect. Only obvious sepa...

@ Konrad: The point is simply that the use of paragraphs is arbitrary. There is no reason to assume deliberate function in one instance of paragraphing when most if not all others show no sign of such. Do you agree that some cards with alternative uses have a sentence common to both alternative and...

meaglyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:57 pm So not really that much of a mess really. And pretty consistent

Not much. Only Deeper Shadow and Echoes of the Song.
Or even not they, if it is intended that the last sentence of their texts applies only to alternative effect.

Period may separate a description of actions/effects belonging to the same - primary/alternative - effect. There are six periods in text of Deeper Shadow. Depending on application a period, comma, colon, semicolon, other characters may have different meaning. If they are used consistently it may be ...

The two cards are not cards with alternative uses. There is no common text shared between primary and alternative use. So question of separation the common text from rest of text does not exist here. That or another formatting - line break, empty line etc. - may have or may not have other meaning in...

Almost all cards I know that have alternative uses and have post/common action/effect like "Cannot be duplicated", "Unless he is a Ringwraith, he makes a corruption check..." use convention that the last sentence is separated from rest of text by line break. Exception are Deeper ...

And for text like "Unless he is a Ringwraith, he makes a corruption check modified by -3." too?

So "Remove this card from the game." is last action of alternative use of Echoes of the Song or is last action of both primary and alternative use.
And what decides about it?

The Wizards: Athelas Rarity: Uncommon, Precise: U Resource: Minor Item A Dúnadan can tap and use this item to heal a character in his company (change from wounded to well, character remains tapped). Aragorn II can also tap and use this item to remove a corruption card from a character in his compan...