Okay, I'm embarrassed... :oops: But I'll continue the embarrassment by pointing out that Marcos's fix (which I was just about to suggest!) makes it so that you only need *three* RWs to score from TRT, and *one* RW to use it. Therefore, I'll add a few words to it to end up with hopefully the final ve...

Bandobras, Jambo, or anyone else lurking here: what say you guys? We need to settle this one. One thought, which probably points out the biggest limitation of the 6 Black Horse requirement: if the RW player sets out with 6 RWs and 6 Black Horses, as per Leon's version, and the opponent is able to ki...

Yeah, I noticed this too. What's really weird is that it was fine, then I updated some XMLs Marcos sent me and went back in, and the whole thing crashed!!

Don't worry Marcos, I'm sure it's not related...

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I'm fine with this of course, although now Eric is starting to convince me that these little bottlenecks might simply empower the opponent to feel like he can do little things to stop the TRT player. (Btw, I DO run Gnawed With Words ) :) Leon weighed in for the full 6 horse requirement. So does Thor...

I forgot about the fact that you can't have 9 RWs in play deck; shows how often I play Minion, right? I see three bottlenecks to playing the horses: 1) The one extra turn site phase delay to play the last few you need 2) As Thorsten points out, "the less horses the better, then one is less like...

Whoops, I worded my new TRT pretty badly. I also forgot that some RWs can easily hold followers under DI, thus negating the need for Black Horses at all. I think reposting on this page the text of the new virtual TRT and Black Rider might help us review the issues: They Ride Together Virtual (Leon’s...

I forgot to mention that it was an oversight on my part that Black Rider (V) didn't pull the regular Black Rider. Yes, I agree that it should. New they ride together taps only if you have 6 black horses, Oh!! You're right, I missed that part completely. :cry: That would mean that if you start two BR...

Regarding the idea of having only one TRT: Marcos suggested the clause "Their company must move again 1 time for each 3 RWs you control." Indeed, something like this would be needed, but I have some problems with a phrase like this, because it means you are essentially granting yourself *t...

Hey Marcos, it would be useful for one of us to play against your version of the Dwar deck, using any iteration of these V-cards. It's hard to base decisions on only one or two guys' versions, especially someone like me that doesn't know minion very well. BUT, it would be best if the test included n...

CURRENT VERSIONS TO TEST Okay, so I'm going to synthesize the issues and try some versions. Here's my first attempt: ORC-MOUNTS (This replaces the second paragraph; first paragraph stays the same): Tap Orc-mounts and a Wolf ally to transfer the ally from one character to another in the same company;...

But the action is "played out" through the character untapping as well. I am sure we can't stop at the word "company" and say that is the only entity. Otherwise, why not stop at "playable on a site," and say that the site is the only entity? Btw, is there a precedent fo...

Right, that makes sense. And on that note, here is the relevant text from a great card, Half an Eye Open (V): "When this card is played, take up to four hazards from your discard pile or sideboard and place them face down with this card. If an “at Home” event is in play, you may play non-unique...

So almost one year later, I am reopening the Dwar thread, given Bandobras's and my testing experience with the deck. Interestingly, some of Marcos's last concerns came out in testing (about Dwar being able to get Wolf factions and points, etc.) This post will regurgitate some ideas that Bandobras an...

Although to be honest, Konrad, I'm suspecting that we should probably avoid using the word "target" on new cards, because nobody will know what it means, even if you tell them. The other practical side is that as a person interested in rules and terms I'd like to see a complex example of h...

Hounds of Sauron says it may be played in lieu of initiating CVCC. May I forgo initiating CVCC, and play multiple Hounds of Sauron against my opponent's company, or may I not, because this would require the ability to initiate CVCC multiple times? If Hounds does indeed have the same limitations/stre...