I don't think the return effect of "Snowstorm is an "ABP"". It is triggered off the reveal of the site path, not the beginning of the movement/hazard phase.
[edit: insert "the return effect of""]
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- Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:15 am
- Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
- Topic: Questions on: CoE Issued Clarification #24 - Beginning & End of Phase & Turn
- Replies: 13
- Views: 6744
- Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:28 am
- Forum: Cardnum
- Topic: Page cannot be scrolled
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7645
Re: Page cannot be scrolled
Weird. Scrolling is working for me on Chrome and Firefox (on Windows though). If this is your backup laptop, are the browsers current?
- Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:23 pm
- Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
- Topic: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
- Replies: 86
- Views: 43425
Re: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
@ Theo: I'm not sure what you're trying to say, there. A Short-Event's effects are immediately implemented, per rule. The Short-Event is then discarded. There's no real way for them to establish a passive condition, as the card doesn't remain in play. If All Thought is unplayable due to ICE's wordi...
- Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:51 am
- Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
- Topic: Old to the game and have some questions
- Replies: 55
- Views: 23383
Re: Old to the game and have some questions
Using this framework it's clear that: (A) RESOLUTION of the card being moved from your hand to the play area is synonymous with (B) DECLARATION of "playing the card" followed by (C) the DECLARATION of all of the effects of the card in reverse order. (Yes, resolution of one action is consi...
- Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:42 am
- Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
- Topic: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
- Replies: 86
- Views: 43425
Re: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
Why would declaring the multiple effects in reverse from "actively engaging" an ability on a card already in play be any more or less prone to problems than from playing a card? E.g.: Sage only. Playable during the site phase on an untapped sage at a site where Information is playable. Tap...
- Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:14 am
- Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
- Topic: Old to the game and have some questions
- Replies: 55
- Views: 23383
Re: Old to the game and have some questions
If declaring playing a card causes (rather than encapsulates) declaring its effects, then the resolution of those effects occurs prior to the card play resolving and the card itself being considered to be in play. This would be problematic for cards that specify placement of themselves within their ...
- Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:56 pm
- Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
- Topic: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
- Replies: 86
- Views: 43425
Re: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
How about this one? Unique. Palantír. With its bearer able to use a Palantír, tap Palantír of Annúminas to search through your play deck and discard pile for a ʺsage onlyʺ card. Put this card in your hand. Reshuffle your play deck. Bearer makes a corruption check. If I understand your opinion correc...
- Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:04 am
- Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
- Topic: Old to the game and have some questions
- Replies: 55
- Views: 23383
Re: Old to the game and have some questions
So, I think the Digest is incorrect. Alternatively, the requirement that a passive condition be an action as stated in MELE is too strict. Rather, MELE doesn't actually use Passive Condition outside of its own glossary entry and the "Declaring an Action" entry, where the wording has immed...
- Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:44 am
- Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
- Topic: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
- Replies: 86
- Views: 43425
Re: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
@ Theo: Not quite. I believe that an action that is impossible to take without a previous action, both of which are declared and resolved after the card is already in play, constitute a passive condition. Ok, so there is more specificity. But I don't think this is any less problematic. At the begin...
- Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:01 am
- Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
- Topic: Old to the game and have some questions
- Replies: 55
- Views: 23383
Re: Old to the game and have some questions
Let's analyze actual quotes rather than just prosthelytizing: ... can be the target of another action or effect declared later in the same chain of effects So, there are effects which are not actions, and it is also not the case that "only actions can have targets". If all effects were act...
- Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:41 pm
- Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
- Topic: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
- Replies: 86
- Views: 43425
Re: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
If I put on my shoes and then I go outside, it does not mean that putting on my shoes caused me to go outside. Thrall tells you to go outside once you put on shoes. There's no other way to go outside using Thrall. This again implies that you believe that a later effect in a series of effects has th...
- Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:58 am
- Forum: Rules Questions & Debate (unofficial)
- Topic: Old to the game and have some questions
- Replies: 55
- Views: 23383
Re: Old to the game and have some questions
This is an interesting premise, but I one that I cannot agree with. If the effects of cards were divorced from the play of those cards, then no cards could be declared because cards cannot be played that have no effect on the game. O_o No; to get anywhere, I believe that the declaration of playing a...
- Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:34 am
- Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
- Topic: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
- Replies: 86
- Views: 43425
Re: Thrall of the Voice: multiple on character clarification
*What* -1 mind action? Thrall of the Voice states " -1 to his mind to a minimum of 1 ." Not all effects are actions. Actions seem to be defined as activities performed by players. A card passively receiving something does not include any activity by a player, so is not inherently an action.
- Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:21 am
- Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
- Topic: Open to the Summons
- Replies: 33
- Views: 19624
Re: Open to the Summons
If short-event allows for taking some action outside a time of its execution it specifies duration. A Chance Meeting does not specify. A Chance Meeting as written does not specify allowing any action, so it rightly does not specify a duration for the lack of an action; it modifies the rules for an ...
- Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:18 am
- Forum: 2019 Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
- Topic: Bow of Alatar
- Replies: 57
- Views: 25213
Re: Bow of Alatar
Having someone else face the strike affects the strike. I would say in a more-major way than just about anything else.
But it seems like incorrect language to change who faces a strike for a strike that a character is already in the process of resolving.
But it seems like incorrect language to change who faces a strike for a strike that a character is already in the process of resolving.