Council of Elrond

I'm not sure why you should only get CVCC kill points if you attack...

MELE CVCC Rules wrote:If a defending character is eliminated, the attacking player receives “kill” marshalling points as indicated on the character’s card. If an attacking character is eliminated, the defending player receives “kill” marshalling points as indicated on the character’s card.

Any thoughts?

zarathustra wrote:I'm not sure why you should only get CVCC kill points if you attack...

MELE CVCC Rules wrote:If a defending character is eliminated, the attacking player receives “kill” marshalling points as indicated on the character’s card. If an attacking character is eliminated, the defending player receives “kill” marshalling points as indicated on the character’s card.

Any thoughts?

Eh? You get the points no matter you are attacking or defending...

CoE Digest #? wrote:If you can initiate company vs. company combat you can obtain kill points from it.

Sorry, can't find the digest off-hand. That's what I was referring to.

The digest says if you can initiate CvCC, imho meaning that if CvCC is a possibility for your companies (regardless of who actually initiates it), you can get the kill MPs.

Sorry, I still was not being clear.

Prone to Violence wrote:Any minion company without a Ringwraith may attack another minion company without a Ringwraith. The attacking company may contain The Balrog. Discard when any play deck is exhausted. Cannot be duplicated.

According to the ruling quoted above, you cannot get kill MP if you ice some of the Balrog's characters when his company attacks you.

I doubt this is right....

I think we can assume that if in general (not vs. a certain company) you can initiate CvCC, then you will get kill MPs from CvCC. Otherwise a minion company getting attacked by a hero company at Rivendell couldn't get MPs either, since they can't initiate CvCC there against that company.

From what I understand, defenders also get the kill points. The "If you can initiate..." ruling you mentioned was trying to simplify questions about who can initiate CvCC vs. who can get points from it. It had nothing to do with defenders and kill points.

Guess this one is done then.

proposed ruling wrote:But the defender and the attack can always receive kill points from defeating characters or creatures in CVCC.

zarathustra wrote:

proposed ruling wrote:But the defender and the attack can always receive kill points from defeating characters or creatures in CVCC.

Attacker? Defeating creatures in CvCC?

Wow, that was poorly worded....

updated proposal wrote:Both the defender and the attacker can always receive kill points from defeating characters or allies in CVCC.

Aye.

Published in 117. Done. Locked.