FW Dunk Deck?
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:42 pm
Does anyone have an example of a fallen-wizard deck that uses A New Ringlord? If not, which do you think would be the strongest wizard to build around?
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If the belief is that the biggest issue for the deck is having the Wizard's Tests cancelled by Blind to the West, would it make more sense to build around FW Gandalf instead to use his tap to test as a back up plan?The problem is the ring tests. Any competent opponent will see which ring type you're testing and hold his Blinds/Ires to make sure you can't actually test the rings in time to win.
The discarding of a Gold Ring for a ring test is not an active condition that happens at declaration. It happens after the roll at resolution of the ring test. All of the "ring test" cards/effects just "test" the ring, they don't discard the ring. Testing a ring is described in the rules:Bob654 wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 6:40 pm Is the discarding of the gold ring an active condition of a ring test, or an effect of the ring test?
What I'm trying to get at, in case I got the terminology wrong:
I play Wizard's Test - do I need to discard the gold ring I'm testing on declaration of the action, or upon resolution? (so that if the test is cancelled with Blind to the West, is the gold ring still in play or not?)
The Gold Ring is discarded after the roll. If the ring is not tested, then it is still the same Gold Ring item. If Blind to the West (or IotE) cancels the ring test then the Gold Ring is not discarded.MELE p. 44 and 45 wrote:If the roll indicates a special ring that you have in your hand, you may replace the gold ring with that ring and discard the gold ring. Otherwise, you just discard the gold ring (i.e., it was not that special). If the roll indicates more than one special ring in your hand, you choose which to play.
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Example: You have Tarcil and Pon Opar (a sage) in the same company. Tarcil has A little Gold Ring. In your hand, you have a Test of Fire card and three ring cards: Trifling Ring (a lesser ring), Magic Ring of Lies, and
Dwarven Ring of Durin's Tribe.
Because Pon Opar is a sage in the same company as a gold ring, you play your Test of Fire on Tarcil's gold ring at any time during your turn. You roll a 5 for the test, so you may play either your Trifling Ring (any result) or your Magic Ring of Lies (6 or less) with Tarcil. In either case, the gold ring is discarded. If you had rolled a 9 or higher, you would have had the choice of playing your Dwarven Ring of Durin's Tribe or your Trifling Ring.