FW Saruman Deck - Looking for advice

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CDavis7M
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I've been working on this FW Saruman deck. It's fairly straight forward but has many trouble spots. Let me know if you guys have any advice for getting it to run well. I call it "2019 ARV."

Pool
3 Thrall of the Voice
1 Celeborn
1 Hador
1 Hendolen

Characters
3 Saruman

Resources: 30
Ally (2)
2 Noble Hound

Faction (1)
1 A Panoply of Wings

Greater Item (3)
1 Palantír of Amon Sûl
1 Palantír of Annúminas
1 Palantír of Osgiliath

Major Item (2)
1 Magical Harp
1 Sable Shield

Minor Item (1)
1 Elven Cloak

Permanent-event (10)
1 Echo of all Joy
1 Farmer Maggot
1 Gift of Comprehension
1 Lore of the Ages
1 Mathom Lore
1 Mischief in a Mean Way
1 Open to the Summons
1 Orc-mail
1 Saruman's Machinery
1 Tales of the Hunt

Short-event (8)
1 A Chance Meeting
1 Belegaer
1 Deeper Shadow
1 Here, There, or Yonder
1 Many Turns and Doublings
1 Memories Recalled
1 Secrets of Their Forging
1 Swag

Special Item (3)
1 Liquid Fire
1 Palantír of Minas Tirith
1 The Ithil-stone

Hazards: 30
Agent (4)
1 Anarin
1 Elwen
1 My Precious
1 Nimloth

Creature (8)
1 Gothmog
3 Lesser Spiders
1 Orc-guard
3 Wild Fell Beast

Creature/Permanent-event (3)
1 Adûnaphel
1 Spider of the Môrlat
1 Witch-king of Angmar

Long-event (3)
3 Peril Returned

Permanent-event (6)
1 Helms of Iron
1 Lure of Power
1 Neither so Ancient Nor so Potent
1 Scimitars of Steel
1 Spawn of Ungoliant
1 Traitor

Short-event (6)
1 Aware of Their Ways
1 Desire All for Thy Belly
1 Incite Denizens
1 Morgul-horse
1 Parsimony of Seclusion
1 Twilight
Vastor Peredhil
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dude,

like this the deck will never work, no ranger too few characters, get back to me on a table at cardnum and I show all the issues makes more sense in a discussion or chat than back and forth texting

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Bandobras Took
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Questions:

1) Is this for a standard two-deck game?
2) Do you have a sideboard?
3) What exactly is the deck trying to accomplish, that you're using FW Saruman?
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CDavis7M
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I'm trying to use as many ARV cards as possible. :)

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also the setup is not legal as you only have 27 (& Anarin) hazards in the deck, the other 2 agents are characters for deck construction,

like I said too many issues, not sure were you are wanting to go with that, but b_took is the man to suffer through F-Saruman decks for an eternity ;)
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I'm rusty on my terminology. What is ARV?
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ARV is the Annual Rules Vote. So, all of the cards submitted and being discussed for ruling/clarification this year.

This deck is mostly a joke based on the large amount of errata/clarifications being discussed.

I imagine this deck will require too long to play due to constant rules questioning.

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Ah. Is it only those cards, or are other cards allowed?
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Yeah, I was trying to get to a legal deck using just those cards. And I already took some allowances (lesser spiders). And, as Vastor points out, I should have included some of the cards as characters and not agent-hazards.
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If you're willing to add Rebuild the Town and Fireworks, you could take the party to the Stones and get lots of Palantiri.
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Vastor Peredhil wrote: Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:52 pm also the setup is not legal as you only have 27 (& Anarin) hazards in the deck, the other 2 agents are characters for deck construction,
All minion agents count as characters for deck construction purposes (including Anarin).
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