[v] Long Grevious Siege/Grond

[Jambo]

Long Grevious Siege V:
MP 4
Permanent-event
Playing during the site phase, if your Ringwraith or a leader is at a Free-hold and Grond is in play on a faction in the same or adjacent region. The company faces 3 attacks which cannot be cancelled (race same as automatic attack - 5 strikes with 9 prowess, 4 strikes with 10 prowess, Maia - 2 strikes with 13 prowess; if Gandalf the White is in play, or if your opponent revealed it to you through a mechanism of the game, it must be used as the Maia attack). Following the attacks, tap your Ringwraith or leader, or discard this card. Tap the site if it's not already tapped. All versions of the Free-hold become Ruins & Lairs. Cannot be duplicated at a given site.

A new mission for minion. Usable in conjuction with playing an item, Smoke in the Wind and virtual Riven Gate, amongst other things.

[marcos]

do we really need a pumped smoke on the wind?

i like the card, but i think that with seize pritioners and smoke on the wind is enough for looting free holds...

[Nerdmeetsyou]

I don't know... never played them... or played against such a deck...

are these cards strong... ???

[marcos]

well, seize pritioners isn't that good, but smoke on the wind is a great card. And it's even better with V riven gate+ V terrors herald doom...

[Jambo]

The idea is the siege of Minas Tirith, so I suppose it could be made more specific to MInas Tirith with more far reaching effects?

[marcos]

agree

[Ringbearer]

As the card is on the moment, Minas Tirith cannot even be targetted because there is no faction playable for minions in Rohan, Anorien, Ithilien or Lebennin.

[marcos]

nice catch!

[Jambo]

Right, this needs an overhaul.

Maybe something to encourage the play of some of the more unused factions:

Long Grevious Siege V:
MP 5
Permanent-event
Playable during the site phase if your Ringwraith or a leader is at Minas Tirith, you have at least one Orc and two Man/Dunadan factions in play, and Grond is in play. The company faces 3 attacks (Men - 5 strikes with 9 prowess, Dunadan - 4 strikes with 10 prowess, Maia - 2 strikes with 13 prowess; if Gandalf the White is in play, it must be used as the Maia attack). Following the attacks, tap your Ringwraith or leader, or discard this card. Tap the site if it's not already tapped. All versions of Minas Tirith become a Dark-hold and Anorien becomes a Dark-domain. Cannot be duplicated.

Or

Long Grevious Siege V:
MP (5)
Permanent-event
+1 to your influence attempts against Man and Dunadan factions. If your Ringwraith or a leader is at Minas Tirith and you have at least one Orc and two Man/Dunadan factions in play, and Grond is in play, you may tap this card during the site phase. When tapped, the company faces 3 attacks (Men - 5 strikes with 9 prowess, Dunadan - 4 strikes with 10 prowess, Maia - 2 strikes with 13 prowess; if Gandalf the White is in play, it must be used as the Maia attack). Following the attacks, tap your Ringwraith or leader to receive this card's MP. Tap the site if it's not already tapped. All versions of Minas Tirith become a Dark-hold and Anorien becomes a Dark-domain. Cannot be duplicated.

[marcos]

i like the 2º version, but i'd say shadow hold and shadow domains instead of dark... Make it similar to lord and usurper

[Vastor Peredhil]

True enough,

the change to a dark-hold and dark-domain is way to strong not even Imlad Morgul is a Dark-domain.

leits go with shadow-hold in a Shadow-land

mfg Nicolai

[Jambo]

So, something along the lines of :

Long Grevious Siege V:
MP (5)
Permanent-event
+1 to your influence attempts against Man and Dunadan factions. If your Ringwraith or a leader is at Minas Tirith and you have at least one Orc and two Man/Dunadan factions in play, and Grond is in play, you may tap this card during the site phase. When tapped, the company faces 3 attacks (Men - 5 strikes with 9 prowess, Dunadan - 4 strikes with 10 prowess, Maia - 2 strikes with 13 prowess; if Gandalf the White is in play, it must be used as the Maia attack). Following the attacks, tap your Ringwraith or leader to receive this card's MP. All versions of Minas Tirith become a Shadow-hold and Anorien becomes a Shadow-land. Cannot be duplicated.

I could add a new automatic attack (e.g. Orcs 4@7) for the Shadow-hold?

Also, the way it's worded right now, if one fails (through not being able to tap the leader or RW), one can re-tap this card each turn to initiate the siege battle. I could add a mechanism for this event to be discarded... Maybe it's quite cool it can be re-tapped each turn?

It also works for Balrog as it stands.

[Vastor Peredhil]

It also works for Balrog as it stands.

sorry but it doesn't as a Balrog wont be able to play the nessescary man/dunadan factions!

I could add a new automatic attack (e.g. Orcs 4@7) for the Shadow-hold?

would be a nice touch to the card (also something about the White tree cannot be played at Minas Tirith any more or discard this card if the White Tree is played at Minas Tirith)

Also, the way it's worded right now, if one fails (through not being able to tap the leader or RW), one can re-tap this card each turn to initiate the siege battle. I could add a mechanism for this event to be discarded... Maybe it's quite cool it can be re-tapped each turn?

I am not sure what your are trying to say here "Siege battle"?!?

mfg nicolai

[Jambo]

Ok, good point about Dunadan factions and the Balrog. Balrog can in fact play Man factions with Baduila and Open to the Summons.

Yeah, I'd like some interaction with the White Tree. I'll have a think over this.

Siege battle - I was simply referring to the attacks one receives when the card is tapped - 5@9, 4@10, 2@13.

[Ringbearer]

The tree should be discarded ONLY if it was planted at Minas Tirith. I doubt if the city falls that the tree would be left standing.