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Re: Charter rewrite

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:45 pm
by thorondor
Thorsten the Traveller wrote: Indeed anybody can make several accounts. I don't see how you would moderate that, there's no way to check for it, other than asking for multiple references, but even so I could make several fake (email) accounts together with a buddy of mine and tell you we'd know all these ficticious persons.
we can put a name to each emailaddress (= forum account). we send out a message asking for the name, and only those are allowed to take part in votings that have submitted their identy.
well, quite inconvenient i guess. and of course there is still the possibility of cheating.

but this possibility was always there, also in the past when voting for the COE for example.

Re: Charter rewrite

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:31 pm
by Thorsten the Traveller
The CoE charter currently works with amendments. This is an american/british approach, it shows respect to and a link with history, but it is not very user friendly. I agree with making a new draft and leave the old charter as a document on the webpage.

we should complete such a draft before new elections, and let each possible candidate make clear their position on it. I think we should not put the charter up for voting by the community, but rather politicize the election. The only real thing changing with the new charter is the ratification-proces of new rules/errata.
While this is an important issue, it is also a single issue, so best seize the opportunity of the election for it. Besides, the old charter says nothing about needing community consent for changes made to the charter: that is the difference between making amendments and issuing a new charter :wink:

Re: Charter rewrite

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 7:24 am
by thorondor
Thorsten the Traveller wrote: we should complete such a draft before new elections, and let each possible candidate make clear their position on it. I think we should not put the charter up for voting by the community, but rather politicize the election.
i would rather finish the whole process now, before the next COE term starts.
new COE, new Memebers, new discussions (going over the same arguments) has a big chance to make the change tedious.
Thorsten the Traveller wrote: The only real thing changing with the new charter is the ratification-proces of new rules/errata.
there are certainly more:
unistalling the Silent Tower list, the COE appointing Worlds, 2years period, ... (just to name a few that come to my mind instantly)
Thorsten the Traveller wrote: While this is an important issue, it is also a single issue, so best seize the opportunity of the election for it.
why not seizing the opportunity of having people vote for 2 things:
- the new COE
- the approval (or not) of the new charter.
Thorsten the Traveller wrote: Besides, the old charter says nothing about needing community consent for changes made to the charter: that is the difference between making amendments and issuing a new charter :wink:
if so, i consider this a major flaw. cause slowly you could change everythin in the charter step by step, calling it an amendment each time.