Bandobras Took wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:46 pm
That would be an implication of such, yes. Doesn't seem too bad for a four-card combo that removes one of the cards from the game.
The alternative, that each of these is declared as its own action, results in the following:
1) Declare Corruption Check.
2) Declare shuffling.
3) Declare putting currently nonexistent card in hand.
4) Declare searching through play deck and discard for Sage Only card.
The problem comes in step three. That one clearly relies on step 4 having been performed (and completed) first. Otherwise, the theoretical target doesn't exist yet, so the action can't be declared.
Your action (3) actually CAN be declared. The declared action is more like: "Declare putting
chosen card in your hand"
There is no rule requiring the target "sage only" card to exist at declaration. The only rule that is close is Annotation 8. But Annotation 8 doesn't apply to all targets, only targets that are in play and can be specified at declaration. If Annotation 8 applied to targets that could not be specified at declaration, how could the requirements of Annotation 8 ever be met?
Clearly a "sage only" card in your play deck or discard pile is not in play at declaration of the Palantir effect. Furthermore, the target cannot be established until the player has made a choice. Therefore, the chosen Sage only card is not subject to Annotation 8. There is no general rule that all targets are active conditions at both declaration and resolution.
Annotation 8: An action that requires a target is considered to have the active condition that the target be in play when the action is declared and when it is resolved. An action may not be declared if its target is not in play. However, dice-rolling actions may always be targeted by other actions declared later in the same chain of effects.
Here is how the Palantir's effect would resolve:
- Declare corruption check.
- Declare reshuffle.
- Declare putting chosen card in your hand (targeting of chosen card is not active conditions).
- Declare choosing a "sage only" card.
- Declare Searching play deck and discard pile (resolve active condition of tapping of the Palantir).
- Search play deck.
- Choose a sage only card.
- Put chosen card in your hand (targets the card, which was unknown at declaration).
- Reshuffle.
- Roll the corruption check.
As shown, the chosen card is only established as the target at resolution. Therefore, it doesn't need to be specified at declaration. Annotation 8 does not require it to be specified. There is no rule requiring the Sage Only card to be specified at declaration.