Secrets of Their Forging

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Zakath
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Secrets of Their Forging

Post by Zakath » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:22 pm

I propose the following erratum be issued:

Change:
SECRETS OF THEIR FORGING ‐ Short‐event (U)
Sage only. Playable on a sage during the site phase at a site where Information is playable if a character in his company has a gold ring item. Tap the sage and the site. You may replace the gold ring with a special item ring from your hand (except for The One Ring) for which the gold ring could normally be tested. Discard the gold ring item.
To:
SECRETS OF THEIR FORGING ‐ Short‐event (U)
Sage only - playable only during the site phase if a sage is untapped at an untapped site where ʺInformationʺ is playable, and only if a character in his company has a Gold Ring. Tap the sage and the site. Test the Gold Ring, no roll (or draw) is used, the player may discard the Gold Ring and play any ring (except for the One Ring) for which the Gold Ring could normally be tested to replace it.
The original wording leaves some room for doubt as to how exactly the replace mechanism works. This erratum would allow a ring to be played from Whispers of Rings, which is consistent with other cards which test Gold Rings (they also allow this). This same issue was corrected for the corresponding hero event card Ringlore here.

Reference thread: viewtopic.php?f=68&t=3716

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CDavis7M
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Re: Secrets of Their Forging

Post by CDavis7M » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:23 pm

This makes sense. Too bad we didn't vote on both last time. Maybe there should be some administrative action by the Council to just accept this automatically to save everyone's time.

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Re: Secrets of Their Forging

Post by the Jabberwock » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:53 pm

CDavis7M wrote:This makes sense. Too bad we didn't vote on both last time. Maybe there should be some administrative action by the Council to just accept this automatically to save everyone's time.
Sometimes there isn’t enough time to get multiple versions of cards prepared in time for the vote. I seem to recall this being the case last year for a couple cards, including The One Ring.
Also, some card’s counterparts may be overlooked.

Currently we don’t have a process in place for the Council to simply issue an erratum for a card like this without it undergoing due process.

Also keep in mind, some cards which have both minion and hero versions are “meant” to be handled differently.


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