WITHDRAWN - Mathom Lore

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WITHDRAWN - Mathom Lore

Post by Sam.Gamdschie » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:04 pm

Playable on a Hobbit at Bag End; tap the Hobbit. During organization phase, bearer may tap to choose a minor item from your play deck or discard pile to place into your hand. Reshuffle your play deck if it was used. Bearer makes a corruption check. [2 corruption points]
I have never seen this card usefully played. You must have a Hobbit at Bag End and tap him. Afterwards you can just search for minor items with bearer making a corruption check [-me_cc-]. That use is limited but additionally you get two (2) corruption points [-me_cp-] and no marshelling points.

My submission is to remove the corruption points (completely) from the card as an erratum.
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Re: Mathom Lore

Post by CDavis7M » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:14 pm

I wrote some thoughts in a related thread: https://councilofelrond.org/forum/viewt ... 774#p30691
For Mathom Lore, I don't think a Hobbit squatting a Bag End is going to have any trouble with corruption even with 2CP. The alternative is a character squatting at a Haven with Cup of Farewell (which is from SB vs not-SB for Mathom). Cup of Farewell has 0 CP. But again, a Hobbit has bonuses to CC. I seem to see Cup of Farewell played more though. But Mathom could let you recycle Thror's Map.
My Conclusion: I don't think removing the CC will help playability much. If anything, I think it makes sense to remove the Race/site playability restrictions vs removing the CC. Removing the tapping to activate seems too powerful. And removing the CC is also powerful. Still, I'm not sure I'd support buffing weaker cards that still have some use in some cases (even if these are not tournament winning decks).

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Re: WITHDRAWN - Mathom Lore

Post by the Jabberwock » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:59 am

DECLINED due to author withdrawing submission.

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