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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:36 am
by Jambo
Ok, a consensus:

Nature's Revenge
Bring an eliminated Awakened Plant creature (or trophy) into play if it could attack the company. The creature immediately attacks the company (not counting against the hazard limit) and the attack receives -4 body and chooses defending characters (+1 strike if Huorn). If the creature was a trophy, the bearer of the trophy must be assigned a strike. If the creature is defeated, place Nature’s Revenge in opponent’s marshalling point pile and he receives 1 marshalling point. Discard Nature’s Revenge and the creature if it is not defeated.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:43 am
by Thorsten the Traveller
But Old Man Willow is the strongest creature of the bunch vs. heroes
Which bunch? You mean strongest of 2 creatures for a total of 6 copies that don't result in possible detainment? Why does the reviving aspect seem so unfair to you now, where it was no problem before?

Anyway like I said, since huorn has most chance of ending up dead, I can go with it. But I think Old Man with a timely marvels is easy meat also...

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:01 pm
by Frodo
Guys, I'm sorry-I was sleeping when I wrote that post. I forgot that the Old Man had only 1 normal strike--thought he had two built-in!!

If I'm the only one who thinks that the Ents are too powerful, we can test another round of +1 strike for everybody. Perhaps the new clause on CS that says it's discarded when an attack is beaten will help lessen its strength a bit.

Frodo

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:51 pm
by Bandobras Took
You're not the only one who thinks they've become a bit too strong. :)

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:12 pm
by Jambo
Well, decision guys - Huorn yes, Old Man Willow, Ent?

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:59 pm
by marcos
IMO: huorn yes, old man yes, ent no...

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:43 am
by Bandobras Took
Huorn yes, Old Man no, Ent never.

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:35 am
by Frodo
Especially with attacker chooses, I don't think the Old Man needs it.

Frodo

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:04 am
by Jambo
Likewise, if attacker is choosing, Old Man doesn't need it. 1@13 choosing is nasty.

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:17 am
by Frodo
Did we just post that at the same time??

Frodo :D

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:15 am
by Jambo
So, is this version good to go?

Nature's Revenge
Bring an eliminated Awakened Plant creature (or trophy) into play if it could attack the company. The creature immediately attacks the company (not counting against the hazard limit) and the attack receives +1 strike (Huorn only), -4 body and chooses defending characters. If the creature was a trophy, the bearer of the trophy must be assigned a strike. If the creature is defeated, place Nature’s Revenge in opponent’s marshalling point pile and he receives 1 marshalling point. Discard Nature’s Revenge and the creature if it is not defeated.

Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:00 am
by Thorsten the Traveller
thumbs up! :)

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:12 am
by Jambo
Signed and sealed. Getting there, slowly but surely.. :)

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:56 pm
by Thorsten the Traveller
nature's revenge is still a permanent-event, so I suppose it can be Voiced/Marvelled. Bummer...

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:23 pm
by marcos
it is a short event, at least, the previous version was short event