Council of Elrond

Must 2 companies join during side phase (one was send back e.g. by beoring skin changers, one stayed) if

1. they where/started at the same haven side (one side card)
2. they where/started at the same hidden haven side (one side card)
3. they where/started at the same haven side (two side cards)
4. thery where/started at the same normal side

Thx for answering the question

CRF, Tun Sequence, Movement/Hazard Phase, General wrote:Companies at the same non-Haven/non-Darkhaven site must join at the end of all
movement/hazard phases, before the site phase starts. Companies at the same Haven/
Darkhaven site may join at this time.

1. May join.
2. May join.
3. May join.
4. Must join.

I thought like Martin before, so yes must join always if only 1 side card, but it was played different against me at hidden haven.

I remember that it was ruled some years ago like this because a deck lorien scatter deck always running in its own snowstorms to easterlings camp drawing 4 cards without any risk and than playing something at the haven. So it was ruled that there must be a separed lorien for the company send back in order to play something during side phase.

So what is the actual ruling still confused!

Anyway thx for the answer

Heiner

You can have any number of Haven Cards in your location deck. With Hidden Haven on a given site, you have only one copy of that Haven, and so there is only one site card to return to. Nevertheless, the rules allow for two separate companies at a haven to be represented by one site card.

At any instance where a company is sent back to any Haven where another company stayed, they do not have to join.

Companies must join at non-haven sites.

Yes as cheezy as it is, you may definatly have multiple companies at 1 haven site card that do not join.

If anyone is wondering I was the one who did this

Please refer to Konrad's CRF post.

In fact, playing a new character at a new copy of the haven where your wizard is and joining after the movement phase is a way to untap havens.