Agent home sites

Khamul the Easterling · Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:22 pm

Assume I have an Agent with Inner Cunning on him/her.
Can this Agent be reveald at an under-deeps site?
An agent may not move to an underdeeps site, but can he start there? (In case it's forbidden .. which rule does say so?)

Thanks!

Konrad Klar · Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:06 pm

Yes, agent with Inner Cunning may starts on Under-Deeps.

|Highwayman| · Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:39 pm

yup, it's another hole in the rules, but it's minor so I don't really think this needs patching

the same way you can reveal non-elf agetns at fallen-wizards' wizardhavens (to which they can't move as only elf agents have the ability to move to havens)

zarathustra · Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:57 pm

Incidentally, it's also possible to reveal freehold-homesite agents at the hero havens with Nobody's Friend, even if the agents are not elven.

|Highwayman| · Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:37 am

zarathustra wrote:Incidentally, it's also possible to reveal freehold-homesite agents at the hero havens with Nobody's Friend, even if the agents are not elven.

right, but that's only possible if you're playing minion, cuz otherwise you use hero sites for agents

Bandobras Took · Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:48 pm

Wouldn't a FW player with Heart Grown Cold have to use Minion sites, even for his agents?

Konrad Klar · Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:19 pm

Good question.
I think yes.
Funny side effect.

|Highwayman| · Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:24 am

I think not
cuz even without Heart Grown Cold in play fallen wizards' agents still can't use minion Ruins&Lairs even though fallen wizards can use them - the rule simply says that agents must use hero versions of sites, so it's not based on the sites fallen wizards can/must use

Bandobras Took · Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:26 am

Fallen-wizard players must use minion site cards for hero Havens . If a Fallen-wizard has more than 4 stage points, his player must also use minion site cards for Free-holds . If a Fallen-wizard has more than 7 stage points, his player must also use minion site cards for Border-holds .

Heart Grown Cold refers to the player -- I think even agent sites will be bound by the restriction.

|Highwayman| · Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:40 am

true it refers to the player and not just his companies but I still think it only affects the sites he plays for his companies and not his agents' sites - as the rules about fallen wizards' movement and use of sites and the rules for Using sites for Agents are in different sections of the rules-booklet, so I guess they were ment to be kept apart