Council of Elrond

In the WH Rolebook it says that FW cannot use cards that modify the Marchalling Points of factions, and especifically mentions Sentines of Númenor and Tribute Gathered. But I have other questions:
- Great army of the north: it does not modify Facion MP, but gives 2 Misc. MP. Legal?
- 3 or more Factions under Orc or Troll Leader: somewhere I did read that you get the extra 2 MP. Correct?
- Long Grievous Siege: Gives 1 Misc MP, not increasing MP from the faction. Legal?

Any other faction modifiers cards that can be udes as a FW?

Thanks.

Mordakai wrote:- Great army of the north: it does not modify Facion MP, but gives 2 Misc. MP. Legal?

Yes (only 1 MP for FW player, that are MPs given by card, not modifier).

Mordakai wrote:- 3 or more Factions under Orc or Troll Leader: somewhere I did read that you get the extra 2 MP. Correct?

Yes.

CRF, Rulings by Term, Leader wrote:Factions played with a leader are worth two extra MP per group of factions, not per
faction.

CRF, Rulings by Term, Fallen wrote:Fallen-wizards may recieve one extra MP for factions played on a leader.

That are normal 2 Misc. MPs.

Mordakai wrote:- Long Grievous Siege: Gives 1 Misc MP, not increasing MP from the faction. Legal?

Yes.


At that background a counting 1 MP of the Tribute Gathered as modifier looks odd. "1" is printed in left upper corner of card like in cases of cards that give MP by themselves.
As I said earlier somewhere, this is ICE's mistake. One Dear To You, not Tribute Gathered fits here.

One Dear to You wrote:Playable on a faction you have in play. -1 faction marshalling points. Any influence attempt against the faction is modified by -8 and Muster may not be used against the faction. '...what his fate shall be depends now on your choice.' -LotRVI

Tribute Garnered wrote:Playable on a faction in play. That faction gives an additional miscellaneous marshalling point. Cannot be duplicated on a given faction. Discard when any play deck is exhausted. ...and out of the East men were moving endlessly: swordsmen, spearmen, bowmen upon horses, chariots of chieftains and laden wains.-LotRII

Thanks for the response.

Regarding this:

Konrad Klar wrote: At that background a counting 1 MP of the Tribute Gathered as modifier looks odd. "1" is printed in left upper corner of card like in cases of cards that give MP by themselves.
As I said earlier somewhere, this is ICE's mistake.

I totally agree with you. As you can see in the card, it should give you +1 Facion MP (as the text says) and 1 Misc. MP for the card itself. I suppose it's FAQ'ed somwhere, or at least nobody tries to take advantage of that obvious errata...

Konrad Klar wrote:

Mordakai wrote:- 3 or more Factions under Orc or Troll Leader: somewhere I did read that you get the extra 2 MP. Correct?

Yes.

CRF, Rulings by Term, Leader wrote:Factions played with a leader are worth two extra MP per group of factions, not per
faction.

CRF, Rulings by Term, Fallen wrote:Fallen-wizards may recieve one extra MP for factions played on a leader.

That are normal 2 Misc. MPs.

To be clear: a FW does receive only 1 extra faction MP for 3 factions of a group under one leader.

CoE weekly Rulings/Clarifications 8 wrote:If I have multiple orc factions under one leader, are the two points I get faction or miscellaneous
points?
*** The extra points provided from stacking certain factions on a leader are faction marshalling points.