If my opponent has a Khamûl the Easterling - Nazgûl Perm (or other tap-able to event, or any event really) and 2 other Nazgûl Perms in play.
If during some Hazard phase WHAT IS the Timing and Cancellation's timing. It's an old school type ruling but I spaced this.
So, if my opponent has the Khamûl and it's my Resource Turn. During the M/H phase, if I:
Announce Marvel's Told targeting Khamûl, I would assume he can respond and say, "I use Khamûl discard 3 cards", right?
What about the reverse timing?
He announces Khamûl tap event, can I respond with Marvel's told and cancel his Khamûl ability/effect?
Thanks for the RULING here.
n.b. Now I understand, if during my organization I want to cancel his sitting Khamûl there is nothing he can do it's gone.
Old-school, timing question, MTold
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Right.
No.
When tapped, Khamûl becomes short-event. Marvels Told cannot target a short-event.
If you are Fallen Wizard player, he can respond to Marvels Told with Blind to the West. If Marvels Told is played with Crown of Flowers he can respond with Twilight.
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No this doesn't make since to me because of the reverse order of the playing of cards.Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:53 amNo.
When tapped, Khamûl becomes short-event. Marvels Told cannot target a short-event.
Because if he "announces" he is tapping Khamûl, if I respond with Marvel's Told, then it would go in reverse order:
Mavels Told, targeting a Permanent Khamûl, in turn canceling the card, it would never get a chance to turn into a short event. Is what I am inferring here.
So you're saying it's like good old Icy Manipulator days with Disenchant, where It's an Artifact, and Instant effect.
i.e. a Permanent, with a Short Event effect.
k, I gotcha, I think haha
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Tapping a Nazgul permanent-event is active condition (i.e. part of declaration) of the Nazgul short-event.rezwits wrote: ↑Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:27 am No this doesn't make since to me because of the reverse order of the playing of cards.
Because if he "announces" he is tapping Khamûl, if I respond with Marvel's Told, then it would go in reverse order:
Mavels Told, targeting a Permanent Khamûl, in turn canceling the card, it would never get a chance to turn into a short event. Is what I am inferring here.
The tapping is not a main effect (that happens when the short-event resolves).
Players do not announce declarations, players declare actions.
We will not speak of such things even in the morning of the Shire.