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Open to the Summons
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:03 am
by the JabberwocK
OPEN TO THE SUMMONS ‐ Permanent‐event (U)
Playable on a company. One agent minion may be played with target company at a Darkhaven [
![Dark Haven [-me_dha-]](./images/smilies/me_dha.png)
] ‐ place this card with the agent. ‐1 to his mind to a minimum of 1. This card may be played with a starting company in lieu of a minor item. When played as such, reveal it when starting companies are determined as if it were a character. Cannot be
duplicated on a given character.
I recently played a game where my opponent made the argument that this card can be used to bring an additional character into play during his turn. So, for example, he first plays a character normally during his organization phase at a Wizard-haven or Dark-haven. He then plays Open to the Summons and plays a second character (agent minion) at a Wizard-haven or Dark-haven. Thus, he brings 2 total characters into play for that turn.
I couldn't find any rulings addressing this. Any thoughts on if this play should be allowed or not? I feel this card wasn't designed to allow this, but I can understand how the argument can be made.
Re: Open to the Summons
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:29 am
by rezwits
One could think this with Thrall too, like these cards are somehow all of the sudden, A Chance Meeting and We have Come to Kill. I always thought of BOTH of these cards as "Characters you can bring into play ENHANCEMENTS" not as an A Chance Meeting or WhCtK...
2¢
Re: Open to the Summons
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:05 am
by Konrad Klar
Re: Open to the Summons
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:58 am
by Sam.Gamdschie
May be we should clarify this for Thrall & Open to ensure both are played this way.
I know it is ‚normal‘ game mechanics but as both cards are more often used the wrong way (in the same way like ACM / WhctK) it should be clearly mentioned.
Re: Open to the Summons
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:45 pm
by the JabberwocK
rezwits wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:29 am
One could think this with Thrall too, like these cards are somehow all of the sudden, A Chance Meeting and We have Come to Kill. I always thought of BOTH of these cards as "Characters you can bring into play ENHANCEMENTS" not as an A Chance Meeting or WhCtK...
2¢
I agree with your interpretation.
I like this Konrad, but this is just your opinion, correct?
Sam.Gamdschie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:58 am
May be we should clarify this for Thrall & Open to ensure both are played this way.
I know it is ‚normal‘ game mechanics but as both cards are more often used the wrong way (in the same way like ACM / WhctK) it should be clearly mentioned.
I agree about clarifying for both. I have already submitted Thrall, found here:
https://councilofelrond.org/forum/viewt ... 145&t=3794
and I plan to submit Open to the Summons as well, but wanted to post about it here first to make sure I didn't miss an important ruling, etc.
I disagree that Thrall and Open are more often used like ACM/WHCTK (over-riding normal character play rules). From my personal experience, I have only encountered one player who suggests them being interpreted this way.
Re: Open to the Summons
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:08 pm
by Konrad Klar
the Jabberwock wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:45 pm
I like this Konrad, but this is just your opinion, correct?
Yes (opinion expressed due to lack of official regulations).
Re: Open to the Summons
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:36 am
by rezwits
100% agree, those were some other good points too...