Weak-willed Orcs are the best escape artists?

[Konrad Klar]

Any difference serves purpose of making no difference...

[Theo]

I would still argue that it affects the prisoner because the rule modification is scoped only for the prisoner's body checks; i.e., it would be a modification of the body check rules for that character.

Any cards includes themselves. Orc and Troll characters are not cards that specifically affect characters taken prisoner. Their discard mechanic should be ignored.

So you have changed your opinion?

I changed my opinion from the original post in that I now believe that Orcs are not escape artists.

I'm not sure what your references are getting at. My wording in the second reference was to specifically affecting characters taken prisoner. I don't think anyone would argue that Orc and Troll characters are cards that specifically affect characters taken prisoner; they don't contain the word "prisoner" anywhere in their effect text.

Perhaps your point is that I should have been more precise in saying:
"I would still argue that the discard mechanic [would otherwise] affect the prisoner because..."

[Konrad Klar]

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Is there no errata on this? How does this match "This effect represents the target running or slinking away from the attack" when there is no attack??

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What simulates Fast Asleep against Lava Flows from The Black Enemy's Wrath?

[Konrad Klar]

Does Troth-ring affect bc made by character imprisoned by Flies and Spiders?
Does The Warding Ring increases body of such character?

[CDavis7M]

Are they "any card"?

[Konrad Klar]

Are they "any card"?

They are, like any other cards.

[Konrad Klar]

Question is, who is imprisoned entity:

1) Bearer of ring.
2) Character (that coincidentally bears ring).

In case (2) ring does not affect its bearer.

[Theo]

Rings born stay with the prisoner, but they do not effect the prisoner unless they specifically mention they effect prisoner bearers.

Specifically mentioning that they effect the bearer does not count as specifically effecting prisoners. The cannot-be-affected rule has to have an exception only for prisoner characters as a concept, not as a specific entity, otherwise it would be vacuous.