Re: Playing Creatures at an Agent’s Site
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:40 am
I agree.
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would take an effect.A permanent-event played on a site affects only the copy of the site it is played on, unless otherwise specified.
Right. Weathertop card with Rebuild the Town must still be the same (named) site as Weathertop card with Guarded Haven.Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:12 am Weathertop with Guarded Haven would still prevent the play of Marshalling Points items at opponent's Weathertop with Rebuild the Town but not because it is the same site, but because Guarded Haven (since errata) states:
"Cards that give marshalling points may not be played at any version of the site by your opponent in all cases".
I did not want to be spiteful, but "The one occupied by agent. Tautology." is only fair answer I know.
I'm glad that I understand you.
I think it is worth challenging what I think you are trying to say here. The original rules texts give us no indication how to handle the incongruity of having multiple versions of the same site with different site types in play at the same time. Some places in the rules do indicate a need to differentiate site (by name) from site card. Noting that creatures keyed to site types only check that the type matches the site, not a specific site card, it seems reasonable to believe that an agent at a different type of a site does allow new hazards to affect a company.Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:06 am Where (to the which site) the creatures are keyed?
Normally a creatures played against a company cannot be keyed to the site other than the company's current or new site.
The company that moves/is at Wizardhaven The White Towers does not move/is not at The White Towers (occupied by an agent).
The agent is at The White Towers, but he is not at Wizardhaven.
This would need to be made explicit in an ARV, though, otherwise I will continue to believe that named sites inherit their properties from all available cards with their name.hypothetical wrote:Effects on companies based on site properties use the properties of the site card the company is at or moving to.
She can just be there without moving, though.CRF wrote:Only Elven agents can move to a site that is a Wizardhaven.
So if a company is at Wizardhaven The White Towers and other player uses The White Towers, the Rats! may be played on the company?
then the company cannot play Wild Hounds nor have Rats! played on it.hypothetical wrote: Effects on companies based on site properties use the properties of the site card the company is at or moving to.
Note that no company is referenced; this could even be played during an earlier company's movement/hazard phase in anticipation.... If agent is revealed and not in a Free‐hold [ ] or Haven [ ], he can tap to allow any Undead hazard creatures to be played at his site this turn. ...
Are you saying that this is how the rules currently operate? Either one or the other? I disagree with both.Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:05 pm Without the errata either:
- agent cannot tap to make certain creatures playable if types of sites used by him and by company do not match,
- agent can tap to make certain creatures playable according to both types of sites used by him and by company (and consistently company can play resources that can be played at any version of its current site currently in play; hazards may be played against the company that require any version currently in play of its current or new site).
Third option:Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:05 pm Without the errata either:
- agent cannot tap to make certain creatures playable if types of sites used by him and by company do not match,
- agent can tap to make certain creatures playable according to both types of sites used by him and by company (and consistently company can play resources that can be played at any version of its current site currently in play; hazards may be played against the company that require any version currently in play of its current or new site).