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CDavis7M wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 5:39 am The character brought into play has only effectively made 1 company composition change.
The company they were brought into play with has changed twice.
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Theo wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 5:52 am
CDavis7M wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 5:39 am The character brought into play has only effectively made 1 company composition change.
The company they were brought into play with has changed twice.
No it hasn't. The company they were brought into has changed into 2 split companies -- that is 1 change. Bringing a character into play is the same as moving a character between GI and DI. It is the "company" as a whole that matters, not the arrangement of individual characters in/out of DI/GI.

A character coming into play with a split company is just 1 "company composition change" because when old Company A splits into new Company B and new Company C, the new character can be played with new Company C "at the same time" as the split. This is the same as if the new character was played with old Company A and then was put into new Company C after the split from new company B. The new character was played with either the original company or one of the final companies.
  • Existing: Company A
  • Step 1: Company B and Company C
Compare to what the CoE incorrectly said is possible:
Old Company A is at a site and a new character is played into new Company B, then old Company A and new Company B combine into new Company C. This requires an "intermediate" Company B that ends up as Company C. A new company cannot merge into another new company because that would be 2 "company composition changes." The new character was not played with the original company nor were they played with one of the final companies.
  • Existing: Company A
  • Step 1: Company A and "intermediate" Company B
  • Step 2: Company C
You can't play a character into their own company at an untapped haven and then merge them with an existing company at a tapped haven. They would have to be played at the tapped haven and then the company would have to split, or they could be played with one of the split companies. This means one of the companies has to move in order to get an untapped haven with just 1 organization phase.
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Konrad Klar
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Each operation of joining a two companies is a composition change of the two companies simultaneously.
So someone may say that a composition change for company A is interrupted by composition change for company B each time when member of company B joins a company A.
We will not speak of such things even in the morning of the Shire.
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