According to effects of Great Road, Bill The Pony etc.
What if the movement is between under-deeps site and Haven and The Way is Shut is in play?
Returning action from The Way is Shut is not immediate action.
If the action has to have any effect it must be declared and successfully resolved.
Is there any period when affected company is considered en route, and if so, what can declared during this period?
Movement without M/H phase
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Oh, so it's not?Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:34 amThat you have started?
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By the way, this "EoT" discussion isn't the main point. The real issue is elsewhere. Did you read the cards again? And like I said, METW is helpful. Also, of course, "if it isn't there, it isn't there."
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If there is no time between discarding Bill The Pony and company appearing at Haven, then also there is no time for discarding Palantir of Osgiliath.
If there is such time, but nothing may be declared during the time, then also returning action from The Way is Shut may not be declared.
If during M/H phase Smoke Rings is declared and The Way is Shut is declared in response then The Way is Shut resolves and thereafter Smoke Rings resolves.
Returning action is declared as first action in next chain of effects (if company is moving from or to under-deeps site). Marvels Told on The Way is Shut declared in response may fizzle the returning action.
What internally happens between discarding Bill The Pony and company appearing at Haven? How movement process looks exactly?
Smart guys believing that answer lies in rules are welcome to share their knowledge and to explain this process.
Other smart (and non-smart) guys are welcome too to share their knowledge and to explain this process.
EDIT: removed duplicated "thereafter"
If there is such time, but nothing may be declared during the time, then also returning action from The Way is Shut may not be declared.
If during M/H phase Smoke Rings is declared and The Way is Shut is declared in response then The Way is Shut resolves and thereafter Smoke Rings resolves.
Returning action is declared as first action in next chain of effects (if company is moving from or to under-deeps site). Marvels Told on The Way is Shut declared in response may fizzle the returning action.
What internally happens between discarding Bill The Pony and company appearing at Haven? How movement process looks exactly?
Smart guys believing that answer lies in rules are welcome to share their knowledge and to explain this process.
Other smart (and non-smart) guys are welcome too to share their knowledge and to explain this process.
EDIT: removed duplicated "thereafter"
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That would mean that there is movement without M/H phase and without site of origin and new site?
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A "new site" is played or declared in the organization phase and then a moving company's current site becomes their site of origin when they move.
Bill replaces the company's current site with another site, which is then their current site.
Seems like this set of cards are not interacting together.
Bill replaces the company's current site with another site, which is then their current site.
Seems like this set of cards are not interacting together.
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I do not see any scenario on which this explanation could stumble.
OK. Thanks.
OK. Thanks.
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