Clear skies - affects minion characters as well?

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Konrad Klar
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The Wizards: Night
RARITY: Common, PRECISE: CA1

HAZARD: Long-event

Environment. The prowess of each non-ranger Dúnadan is modified by -1. Additionally, if Doors of Night is in play, the prowesses of all attacks are modified by +1 and the prowess of each Man and Dúnadan is modified by -1. Cannot be duplicated.
Does non-ranger Dúnadan count as each Dúnadans, or does not count?
If Doors of Night and Night are both in play does it suffer -2, or -1 to its prowess?
CDavis7M wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 6:38 pm Even "Concept of ally counting during combat as character for all purposes" does not "leads to situation that an ally with prowess receives +2 to prowess from Fellowship during combat."
I do not except a consistency from those who are backing the concept. And even I do not except that those who say that Clear Skies gives allies +2 to prowess during combat consider themselves as supporters of "Concept of ally counting during combat as character for all purposes".
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Konrad Klar wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:02 pm
The Wizards: Night
RARITY: Common, PRECISE: CA1

HAZARD: Long-event

Environment. The prowess of each non-ranger Dúnadan is modified by -1. Additionally, if Doors of Night is in play, the prowesses of all attacks are modified by +1 and the prowess of each Man and Dúnadan is modified by -1. Cannot be duplicated.
Does non-ranger Dúnadan count as each Dúnadans, or does not count?
If Doors of Night and Night are both in play does it suffer -2, or -1 to its prowess?
The card says "additionally." That word has the meaning of the second -1 being in addition to the first -1.

Fellowship doesn't say "additionally" with respect to allies.
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I believe that someone would say that " prowess of each Man is modified by -1, additionally prowess of each Dúnadan is modified by -1" instead "prowess of each Man and Dúnadan is modified by -1" would change a meaning.
Would it change a meaning?
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Depends on the context.
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Environment. The prowess of each non-ranger Dúnadan is modified by -1. Additionally, if Doors of Night is in play, the prowesses of all attacks are modified by +1 and the [...]. Cannot be duplicated.

The parts of text surrounding [...] is the context.
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