Characters in sideboard of Fallen Wizard
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:35 am
Is it forbidden for FW player to include Ringwraith and other Wizard characters in sideboard?
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When you play a Fallen-wizard, assume that your Fallen-wizard is a METW "Wizard". All of the normal METW rules apply except for the specific exceptions outlined in these rules. The ME:LE rules that concern Wizards also apply to Fallen-wizards.
WIZARDS - When the rules and cards refer to a Wizard, they apply to your Fallen-wizard.
Up to 3 copies of one Wizard or Ringwraith is allowed in a play deck, or up to 2 copies of one and 1 copy of another. One copy each of three different Wizards or Ringwraiths is not allowed.
Technically, you *can* include Wizard characters in the sideboard. You cannot include RWs, as Wizards are not allowed to put RWs anywhere in their decks. I'm not sure why one would choose to put a wizard in, since you declare which FW you are when you begin the game, making the play of any different FW card on your part illegal.If you are playing a Fallen-wizard, you must tell your opponent which Fallen-wizard you are playing before choosing starting companies.
Maybe I am blind, but... where it is stated?Bandobras Took wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:39 pm You cannot include RWs, as Wizards are not allowed to put RWs anywhere in their decks.
Ride Against the Enemy (I am sacrificing my secret plan).Bandobras Took wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 2:39 pm I'm not sure why one would choose to put a wizard in, since you declare which FW you are when you begin the game, making the play of any different FW card on your part illegal.
What about characters like Nain?Bandobras Took wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:04 pm FW can use Orcs and Trolls because, in the FW rules, they have rules allowing orcs and trolls in their decks.
They do not have a similar stated rule for RWs, so they use Wizard rules.
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once played, but are not understood as being a character in the same sense as a regular hero character during deck construction.operates as a character
OK. Thanks.Bandobras Took wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:24 am Without a rule to allow placing RWs in the deck, neither Wizards nor FWs have the option, just as RWs have no option to include Wizard cards in their deck.
Now I understand more the phrase "(including your Ringwraith)" in text of Weigh All Things to a Nicety.Bandobras Took wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:24 am The rules clearly state that Minion Characters have a rusted purple background.
Wait.Bandobras Took wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:24 am But RWs do not count as minion characters for the purpose of deck construction. The rules clearly state that Minion Characters have a rusted purple background.
Lidless Eye wrote:Minion: A character controlled by a Ringwraith player. Non-Ringwraith minion cards have a rusted-purplish iron
background. Each Ringwraith minion card has a blood-red stone background. Minions are the only characters included
in MELE.
White Hand wrote:Starting Characters
Your starting characters (up to 5) may include hero characters and minion characters, but you may not start a character with a mind greater than 5. However, you may not start Orc and Troll characters unless you start with an appropriate stage resource card (e.g. Bad Company).
For me it is clear that there are two definitions of minion character, one for purpose of including characters, other applicable once when the characters are included in deck/pool/sideboard.White Hand wrote:Characters — You may use both hero and minion characters. However, you may only use a character if his mind attribute is 5 or less. All of your non-Orc/Troll characters are considered to be hero characters. You may only use up to two of each non-unique character.