BTW, Thorsten, notwithstanding it couldn't seem, I like your post very much and quote it at 100%.Thorsten the Traveller wrote:I must agree with Wacho. Knowing one of the persons involved a bit, and knowing him quite capable of letting things grow out of proportion, I still can't judge in this matter, nor can most of us. And honestly, it's not that important. I hope it will all prove to be just an incident between two people, but I must share Wacho's concern. In fact, the tone of your comment Earendil only adds to that feeling, whether you're right about the questionable moderating activities at meccg.net or not.
It would be good to have a more open discussion about the role of the CoE in the community. It has been rather dormant for a long time, now people take initiative and that is good, but when they show a propensitiy to centralize things - which in itself might be good as well, it depends- they might step on other people's toes. Some people's feet are bigger than others, so you tend to step on them a bit easier, but the fact remains that there has been somewhat of a shift in the 'Balance of Things.' And we all know what that means: double Corruption Points...
Some people talk of leaders, I generously dislike that notion if it should refer more to 'showing the way' or 'deciding the future', than to taking initiative, because we're no sheep, so we don't need herdsmen. What applies to sheep however applies to the herdsmen alike, that good sense of loyalty, modesty and humility befits us all, and sometimes herdsmen tend to get a bit big headed or omnipresent. That's no good. But like I said, we are no sheep.
Now to throw a little rock in the pond, I'd propose to not have any forum on the CoE site. I don't fundamentally disapprove at all of having a forum here, but having two forums around sucks for obvious reasons, so I prefer the forum at meccg.net, for reasons
a) it has worked just fine until now (so the talk of people not feeling at home there seems really nonsense to me, at least I never heard of complaints about the mod.team before)
b) it has a big audience,
and c) checks and balances. Think of CoE as our government, then we prefer the forum to be in the independent media.
Though a forum here certainly has its uses, connecting rulings with rules-discussion, same with virtuals, or even UEP (what do these have to do with CoE anyway, more support for the Balance theory), I don't see them as essential (nor did previous councils).
To close off, thanks Mark indeed for this apology, I hope it all gets solved indeed and you can post it at meccg.net, but I hope CoE take the concerns Wacho/me have mentioned seriously.
The problem is... pardon... WAS not with the mod team. The problem was that the mod TEAM was not anymore and someone was really abusing of admin. "I can speak harsh and I stay here; you speak harsh and I ban you" seems to me not a good modus operandi. "The only one who can do something for the game is me, so I ban you 'cause you're active" is even worse.
Best regards.