Worlds 2014 - Tourney reports
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lucas.kubisch
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Ah man really a clock now, we already have dice, maps, mad rules, what if CoE just comes out with an official list that if you love middle earth you do not want to be on this list, and it can be ranked too, from bad to level sauron when it comes to wasting time and fucking with people on purpose. Both players should be working together to make the game go smoothly. I admit having your wizard fail a corruption check early on with your mp items can be discouraging lol, me and my friend go thru our deck at least once and try to play all the cards usually takes about two hours it is fun, rolling snake eyes is not cool tho not at all
IIRC, there were 17 players. I took home last place!Alter Tuk wrote:How many players did participate in the tournament?
Lessons Learned:
1. Buy those nifty sleeves with a colored back for easy shuffling
2. Do not share cards between decks, so you do not forget to put in your avatar cards
3. Do build and playtest the decks months in advance
4. put in Balrog ally into deck instead of in the sideboard
5. If your opponent wants to ask the Rules Lawyer about something, just admit defeat and move on.
I love chess clocks, being a former chess player. Yet, I cannot really associate clocks with meccg in my mind. It just does not feel right to me (but this is of course very subjective).
What about simply guaranteeing a minimum number of turns (e.g. Five - but I do not have enough competition experience to judge what is a true required minimum)?
This will not solve all the issues (e.g. Stalling in the last few seconds if you lead to prevent an additional turn for both players), but this will prevent squatting/stalling as well as issues with slow/new players (I once saw a slow newbie beat a very experienced player because they could only play 2 or 3 turns. One character killed, no item drawn...)
Well, that was just my two cents. I let the real pro players anyway...
What about simply guaranteeing a minimum number of turns (e.g. Five - but I do not have enough competition experience to judge what is a true required minimum)?
This will not solve all the issues (e.g. Stalling in the last few seconds if you lead to prevent an additional turn for both players), but this will prevent squatting/stalling as well as issues with slow/new players (I once saw a slow newbie beat a very experienced player because they could only play 2 or 3 turns. One character killed, no item drawn...)
Well, that was just my two cents. I let the real pro players anyway...
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briannocheeze
- Ex NetRep
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- Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:26 pm
FWIW, here's an opinion from an old guy who knew a thing or two about the competitive nature of worlds tournaments. The top competitors, whether it be in physical or intellectual sport will always look for any edge possible to win. I am not justifying cheating, or unsportsman/gentlemanlike behaviour. But when rules are already in place to deal with issues such as stalling, and are not enforced, then be prepared for someone to bend said rules.
It is the tournament director's responsibility (not necessarily organizer) to either enforce the rules, or have someone else in place if they, themselves, are unavailable/incapable to do so. If the pressure of making such a decision is too great to fall upon one person's shoulders, then maybe a tribunal should be in place for the most controversial decisions.
If one person gets their feathers ruffled by having their "bluff" called about rule bending and quits playing as a result, so be it. "The needs of the many..."
Don't forget what resulted from all these complicated rules, errata, etc. The game does not need more rules. Cheeze will always exist at the top levels of the main event. If you can't handle losing to it, then play in side events only.
Time always seems to go faster when you're behind, and slower when you're ahead. I don't believe chess clocks are the answer. Enforce the tournament rules.
Congratulations to Joe on the win. I would love to hear his opinion on the issue. He may have already, but I can't tell with everyone's secret code names on this forum.
Sincerely,
Brian "No Cheeze" Wong
Proud member of The Guild of Crippled Masters
Bearer of the Red Socks of Power
p.s. You're always allowed to use your opponent's dice, so no phone app necessary to protect from loaded dice.
It is the tournament director's responsibility (not necessarily organizer) to either enforce the rules, or have someone else in place if they, themselves, are unavailable/incapable to do so. If the pressure of making such a decision is too great to fall upon one person's shoulders, then maybe a tribunal should be in place for the most controversial decisions.
If one person gets their feathers ruffled by having their "bluff" called about rule bending and quits playing as a result, so be it. "The needs of the many..."
Don't forget what resulted from all these complicated rules, errata, etc. The game does not need more rules. Cheeze will always exist at the top levels of the main event. If you can't handle losing to it, then play in side events only.
Time always seems to go faster when you're behind, and slower when you're ahead. I don't believe chess clocks are the answer. Enforce the tournament rules.
Congratulations to Joe on the win. I would love to hear his opinion on the issue. He may have already, but I can't tell with everyone's secret code names on this forum.
Sincerely,
Brian "No Cheeze" Wong
Proud member of The Guild of Crippled Masters
Bearer of the Red Socks of Power
p.s. You're always allowed to use your opponent's dice, so no phone app necessary to protect from loaded dice.