Fallen Wizard - Facion MP modifyers

Mordakai · Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:34 pm

In the WH Rolebook it says that FW cannot use cards that modify the Marchalling Points of factions, and especifically mentions Sentines of Númenor and Tribute Gathered. But I have other questions:
- Great army of the north: it does not modify Facion MP, but gives 2 Misc. MP. Legal?
- 3 or more Factions under Orc or Troll Leader: somewhere I did read that you get the extra 2 MP. Correct?
- Long Grievous Siege: Gives 1 Misc MP, not increasing MP from the faction. Legal?

Any other faction modifiers cards that can be udes as a FW?

Thanks.

Konrad Klar · Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:27 pm

Mordakai wrote:- Great army of the north: it does not modify Facion MP, but gives 2 Misc. MP. Legal?

Yes (only 1 MP for FW player, that are MPs given by card, not modifier).

Mordakai wrote:- 3 or more Factions under Orc or Troll Leader: somewhere I did read that you get the extra 2 MP. Correct?

Yes.

CRF, Rulings by Term, Leader wrote:Factions played with a leader are worth two extra MP per group of factions, not per
faction.

CRF, Rulings by Term, Fallen wrote:Fallen-wizards may recieve one extra MP for factions played on a leader.

That are normal 2 Misc. MPs.

Mordakai wrote:- Long Grievous Siege: Gives 1 Misc MP, not increasing MP from the faction. Legal?

Yes.

At that background a counting 1 MP of the Tribute Gathered as modifier looks odd. "1" is printed in left upper corner of card like in cases of cards that give MP by themselves.
As I said earlier somewhere, this is ICE's mistake. One Dear To You, not Tribute Gathered fits here.

One Dear to You wrote:Playable on a faction you have in play. -1 faction marshalling points. Any influence attempt against the faction is modified by -8 and Muster may not be used against the faction. '...what his fate shall be depends now on your choice.' -LotRVI

Tribute Garnered wrote:Playable on a faction in play. That faction gives an additional miscellaneous marshalling point. Cannot be duplicated on a given faction. Discard when any play deck is exhausted. ...and out of the East men were moving endlessly: swordsmen, spearmen, bowmen upon horses, chariots of chieftains and laden wains.-LotRII

Mordakai · Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:21 pm

Thanks for the response.

Regarding this:

Konrad Klar wrote: At that background a counting 1 MP of the Tribute Gathered as modifier looks odd. "1" is printed in left upper corner of card like in cases of cards that give MP by themselves.
As I said earlier somewhere, this is ICE's mistake.

I totally agree with you. As you can see in the card, it should give you +1 Facion MP (as the text says) and 1 Misc. MP for the card itself. I suppose it's FAQ'ed somwhere, or at least nobody tries to take advantage of that obvious errata...

Shapeshifter · Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:28 am

Konrad Klar wrote:
Mordakai wrote:- 3 or more Factions under Orc or Troll Leader: somewhere I did read that you get the extra 2 MP. Correct?
Yes.
CRF, Rulings by Term, Leader wrote:Factions played with a leader are worth two extra MP per group of factions, not per
faction.

CRF, Rulings by Term, Fallen wrote:Fallen-wizards may recieve one extra MP for factions played on a leader.
That are normal 2 Misc. MPs.

To be clear: a FW does receive only 1 extra faction MP for 3 factions of a group under one leader.

CoE weekly Rulings/Clarifications 8 wrote:If I have multiple orc factions under one leader, are the two points I get faction or miscellaneous
points?
*** The extra points provided from stacking certain factions on a leader are faction marshalling points.