How is this?Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:29 am 2.
I strongly disagree that Smoke Rings targets anything, i.e that a resource or a character in play deck or sideboard must be chosen at declaration of Smoke Rings.
It also does not affect the resource/character, likewise a card that allows/causes a playing other card does not affect the other card.
CRF wrote:A target is an entity that an action is played out through. Enitities are only targets of an action if the action specifies those entities by number and type. Note that "the foo" counts as specifying one "foo."
Entity: one resource or character.Smoke Rings wrote:Bring one resource or character from your sideboard or discard pile into your play deck and shuffle.
Action: bringing from your sideboard or discard pile into your play deck.
Seems unquestionably targeting to me.
In a related thread you claimed:
But I don't agree. You argue that they don't target because they may be played even if there is no reasource/character card in discard pile/sideboard, but I'd argue that they can't be played in that situation because they require a target.Konrad Klar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:30 pm Smoke Rings may be played even if there is no resource/character card in discard pile/sideboard (they potentially may appear there in result of an actions declared in response).
I appreciate the Exhalation of Decay and In Great Wrath examples being more explicit, but I don't think this means that not having a "playable on" phrase means it isn't targeting under the current definitions.