Revealing identical unique items at Free council

[stedanko]

Regarding the rule below, copied from meccg.net:

MARSHALLING POINT MODIFICATIONS
At the Free Council, you may reveal any unique marshalling point cards in your hand that match unique cards that your opponent has in play. Each such revealed card reduces your opponent's marshalling point total by one.

Was fairly recently introduced to this long self-neglected rule, however in even more recent play this question became important. Is the reduction of MPs from the individual category the card is from (i.e. items, characters, allies, factions) or from the final summed total of all MPs? Asking this in context with the other rules of 1) having no more than half your points coming from a single category and 2) the doubling of MPs by reducing an opponent's category to zero.

[Konrad Klar]

To calculate marshalling points at the Free Council, follow these steps:
• Total up the marshalling points for each category. The modifications from My
Precious, factions played on a leader, and eliminated characters apply now.
• If your opponent has no points in a category double your points in that category.
Doubling does not apply to the Miscellaneous or Kill categories.
• If one of your categories accounts for more than half of your positive marshalling
point total, reduce it so that it has the same number of points as the rest of your
positive categories combined.
• Subtract any points that are subtracted from your total, including points from
unique resources your opponent has duplicated in his hand.

[curiousgene]

So, let's suppose, hypothetically, that I had only two types of MPs, item and character. 7 character, and I think 11 item. One of my characters happened to also be in my hypothetical opponent's hand. Following that sequence:

* Add up the points. I've got 7 character, 11 item.
* Double my opponent's Faction and Ally points, as I have none.
* Reduce my item points to 7. I'm not at 50% each for my two types of points.
* Knock off 1 point for the duplicate character.

After doing that, though, I'm now at 6 character, and 7 item, so items now account for >50% of my points. Do I have to knock off another point so no single point source accounts for more than 50%?

(Hypothetically, this happened on Sunday at OrcCon during the Dragon Hoard tournament. I was going to lose either way, but this would determine whether I lost by more than 1.5x or not. There were tournament points at stake.)

[Konrad Klar]

You will end with 13 MP (assuming that at least one of your opponents has positive item MP and positive character MP).



EDIT:
Changed "positive MP from items and from characters" to "positive item MP and positive character MP".

[kober]

To calculate marshalling points at the Free Council, follow these steps:
• Total up the marshalling points for each category. The modifications from My
Precious, factions played on a leader, and eliminated characters apply now.
• If your opponent has no points in a category double your points in that category.
Doubling does not apply to the Miscellaneous or Kill categories.
• If one of your categories accounts for more than half of your positive marshalling
point total, reduce it so that it has the same number of points as the rest of your
positive categories combined.
• Subtract any points that are subtracted from your total, including points from
unique resources your opponent has duplicated in his hand.

Does this apply to counting the MPs for the purpose of calling the Free Council too?

[Konrad Klar]

No.

Clarification: These marshalling point modifications do not apply until the audience actually takes place. Specifically, the modifications do not affect your MP total when it is used to determine if you can call the audience (i.e., you need 20 MPs to call the audience before any modification).

Clarification: These marshalling point modifications do not apply until the
Free Council actually takes place. Specifically, the modifications do not
affect your marshalling point total when it is used to determine if you can call
the Free Council (i.e., you need 20 MPs to call the Free Council before any
of these modifications are made).

Conversely:

Marshalling points with companies at or moving from an Under-deeps site do not
count for the purposes of calling the Free Council. They do count at the Council. This
includes minion and Fallen-wizard companies.

[kober]

How about modification for eliminated characters? I'm pretty sure that killed Wizard (-5 MP) affects the ability to call the Council.

[Konrad Klar]

Eliminating a Wizard or Ringwraith does not end the game. An eliminated Wizard or
Ringwraith is placed in the out-of-play pile, and gives -5 MP to the final total. That
player may not reveal another Wizard or Ringwraith. This includes Wizards who fail
corruption checks. [effective 1/1/98]
The -5 MPs apply immediately, and affect your MPs for calling the end of the game.
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[kober]

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